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  • you are NPR’s Senior White House [correspondent]{通讯记者}.

  • He wants to [deport]{驱逐出境} criminal immigrants, drain the [swamp]{使…人满为患} of corruption in Washington and undo what Trump calls stupid trade deals.

  • Donald Trump talked a lot about wanting to [repeal]{废除} Obamacare on the campaign trail.

  • We asked Stacey Vanek Smith to look into this to see if Trump actually can [dismantle]{拆除} Obamacare within his first hundred days, and if so, how he’d go about it.

  • And he’s spent most of his career researching health care reform and [advocating]{提倡} for universal coverage.

  • As the night wore on, what I saw, Stacey, was basically roughly 25 years of my life being [repudiated]{拒绝} by half our nation.

  • In that lawsuit, the House Republicans were saying the Obama administration was spending tens of billions of dollars [unconstitutionally]{违反宪法的} because Congress had not [appropriated]{占用} the money.

  • those insurance companies, some of whom are already [wary]{谨慎的} of the Obamacare program, might bolt for good.

  • who is eager to see the law [unraveled]{解开}

  • and replace it with something that offers coverage to a much smaller [fraction]{分数}

  • this was sort of one of the greatest hits at Donald Trump [rallies]{集会} around the country where he’d talk about building that great big beautiful wall along the U.S. southern border with Mexico.

  • this would be a massive [logistical]{后勤方面的} [undertaking]{工作}.

  • I am the owner and CEO of Superior [Concrete]{混凝土的} Products.

  • done some [arithmetic]{算术} about what it would take to wall off the U.S. southern border.

  • the first big [hurdle]{障碍} would be there are people along the border who own some of this land who might not want a big wall going up on their property.

  • That’s an [eminent]{杰出的} domain situation.

  • Republicans in particular are usually [opposed]{反对} to the idea of the government taking over private property for some [ostensible]{表面的} public purpose.

  • About five million [lineal]{直系的} feet.

  • He was [muttering]{嘟哝} numbers.

  • It would be about 250,000 [truckloads]{货车荷载} of - you know, the concrete trucks.

  • so there’s some steel [rebar]{钢筋} you’d need as well.

  • the amount of money that it would cost would just be [astronomical]{天文的}.

  • They were being [prosecuted]{检举} for using illegal immigrant labor to do some of the construction.

  • He says the U.S. has left [treaties]{条约} before, like defense treaties. But this was not without [controversy]{争论}.

  • if it’s [constitutional]{宪法的} for the president to just do this alone without Congress.

  • There could be lawsuits [galore]{大量的}.

  • if you can prove you’ve been [legitimately]{合理地} harmed, then yes, yes, you could. And so we might finally get a [definitive]{决定性的} answer to the question of whether the president has the power to cancel NAFTA all on his own.

  • they could always [punt]{踢悬空球} it back to Congress and the president to work out themselves.

  • his [populous]{人口稠密的} supporters.

  • the swamp is [shorthand]{速记法的} for this idea that there is a corrupt group that’s doing favors for each other in Washington.

  • On the topic of [lobbyists]{说客}, Trump has also said he supports this.

  • All he has to do is make his staff sign a [pledge]{保证} not to lobby for five years after they leave government.

  • And they started immediately giving out [exemptions]{免除}, or pretty quickly giving out exemptions, to be able to get people to work for the government.

  • Congress has been historically [reluctant]{不情愿的} to limit what its members can do once they leave office.

  • yesterday a document started [circulating]{传播} around Washington, D.C.

  • I do have to say, draining the swamp, [reining]{控制} in lobbyists, that was kind of a late addition to the Donald Trump [repertoire]{全部节目} of promises

  • The vast majority of [apprehensions]{理解} happen by a local law [enforcement]{执行} officer.

  • you have to [detain]{拘留} them, house them, feed them, clothe them and guard them. Once you’ve [apprehended]{理解} the folks and you’ve put them in a [detention]{拘留} center, there’s still some due process to get through.